(03-11-2016 04:30 PM)CoachJammer Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 03:57 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:44 PM)CoachJammer Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:03 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 11:36 AM)CoachJammer Wrote:  My attitude exactly. Here's what I know. Aside from SMU who is not in the tourney, and UCONN who we played even with in their house, and led by one point at half against at home, the Tigers have beaten every other team left in the tourney. How I feel about CJP doesn't take away any of that and I will root for them to win the tournament.

we played even with UCONN because Brimah was out.

Not sure how you are spinning the worst home loss in 21 years as a positive, but A for effort.

I'm sure Brimah's presence impacted Shaq & Dedric but his stat line in that worst loss at home in 21 years: 13 mins, 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 stl, 1 TO, 5 fouls. All I'm saying is, no team in the AAC tourney makes me believe the Tigers can't win it.

Well, except of course that we aren't very good. We haven't won two games in a row since January 16th, and haven't won 3 games in a row since we had a 5 game winning streak snapped in mid December.

I don't think many of you have come to grips with how bad this team truly is.

This is the same team that lost to the bottom dwellers of the AAC and I hope your scouting report makes it to rest of the coaches and they pass it along to their players because as an underdog with no expectations, I believe this team is talented enough to win a 3-game, AAC tourney.

Without a doubt, the talent is there. Of course, talent has never been the issue.

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Awesome. Another "Big picture" post. Tough to say/write, but you found a way. Thanks. Maybe things will go your way tonight, fan.

GO TIGERS!!!

(03-11-2016 08:28 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I could never root for our Tigers to lose, under any circumstances. Ridiculous...

Amen. Jesus, I get so sick of crap like this. Who the hell could call themselves a fan and root for the other team? The coaching situation will work itself out--good, bad or indifferent. Today, tomorrow, next month, whatever. Meantime, let's win and move on.

(03-11-2016 05:19 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 08:28 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I could never root for our Tigers to lose, under any circumstances. Ridiculous...

Amen. Jesus, I get so sick of crap like this. Who the hell could call themselves a fan and root for the other team? The coaching situation will work itself out--good, bad or indifferent. Today, tomorrow, next month, whatever. Meantime, let's win and move on.

Yep. Gives the saying "blinded by hate" a perfect illustration.

(03-11-2016 12:48 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  I hear ya. But, I have to root for the Tigers

This.

A win-win would be that the Tigers make a good run, Pastner gets on somebody's radar, and he leaves.

Even if the team did that, and he got some offers, he'd still stick around for ten million reasons.

OP puts his hate of Pastner ahead of the program.

(03-11-2016 07:27 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 05:44 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  I'm never going to root for the Tigers to lose

Amen brother

Double Amen!!

(03-11-2016 02:33 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:13 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:07 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

I don't care what they do anymore. They're irrelevant.

thanks for your feedback

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(03-11-2016 03:02 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:44 PM)CoachJammer Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:03 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 11:36 AM)CoachJammer Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 10:59 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  OP, go ahead and quit with your fandom. Rooting against the team? All the while knowing that the coach isn't getting fired regardless of outcome. Just stop.

HE WILL BE COACH NEXT YEAR UNLESS HIRED AWAY. I don't know why that is so difficult for some of you to understand. He is not getting fired...not this year at least.

Sure, we'd all love a change. But it ain't happening so why not hope for the best.

My attitude exactly. Here's what I know. Aside from SMU who is not in the tourney, and UCONN who we played even with in their house, and led by one point at half against at home, the Tigers have beaten every other team left in the tourney. How I feel about CJP doesn't take away any of that and I will root for them to win the tournament.

we played even with UCONN because Brimah was out.

Not sure how you are spinning the worst home loss in 21 years as a positive, but A for effort.

I'm sure Brimah's presence impacted Shaq & Dedric but his stat line in that worst loss at home in 21 years: 13 mins, 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 stl, 1 TO, 5 fouls. All I'm saying is, no team in the AAC tourney makes me believe the Tigers can't win it.

Literally every team in the AAC can say the same thing.

As Vernon said today on his radio show: Tulsa and Houston are lame. I know Memphis is lame, too, but when lame teams play each other anything can happen.

How did I get stuck in the SEC thread?

Go Tigers Go! Go Pastner Go!

(03-11-2016 04:26 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

There's not going to be a settlement and he's not going to quit, so Go Tigers Go!

That's the latest trendy line, but not so sure about that. Neither side is going to show their hands to media or anyone else until this season is over and the merry-go-round of coaching changes begins.

Sure. Let's root against the team. Hey, why not throw Deangelo under the bus too - in defense of Peyton. Bizarro world.

(03-11-2016 02:07 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

I don't care what they do anymore. They're irrelevant.

That's the spirit Vol fan

(03-11-2016 11:38 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 02:07 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

I don't care what they do anymore. They're irrelevant.

That's the spirit Vol fan

I agree. We're having a great game. Even a couple of the long time miserables are enjoying it. Obviously not all of them are though. Can't you just put your agenda aside for a night or two and enjoy what our guy's are doing. Let them have their fun and enjoyment.

(03-11-2016 10:03 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Grow a pair, and enjoy the tournament.



GO TIGERS!

I think 50% of this board must guzzle Idiot Juice all day.

What does my post have to do with "Growing a Pair"?

Such a stupid reply. The topic is relevant and 50% of the people on this board reply with ignorant statements.

Good god we need a new board because it's impossible to have a civil thread anymore.

half of the folks on here get their jollies off blasting every single topic anyone presents.

BTW - I HAVE BEAUTIFUL HANDS. HUGE HANDS
NOTHING WRONG DOWN THERE....

and if you dont get the joke then it shows further ignorance.

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Might need to invest in some painkillers

(03-12-2016 12:47 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Might need to invest in some painkillers

Definitely!!! The anti Pastner crowd which includes me better be ready for another year and an auto renew extension.

I mentioned this possibly in the Andy Katz thread a few weeks back. Nobody in the AAC is unbeatable.

My fear as someone who wants to see a coaching change is one step closer to coming true.

Winning the AAC torny isn't hard this year. SMU was the only team we probably couldn't beat with Larry Brown on the sideline.

Tulane knocking off UH virtually puts Pastner in the title game. Once there we have as good of chance to win as anyone we face.

I have been on record since November saying he had to go.

however I'll be the first to say that if JP magically gets us into the Big Dance then I will give credit where it's due

After losing AN this summer we went from Sweet 16 aspirations to simply making the NCAAs.

If we win it then I rest my case because JP would have met the season expectation.

For those thinking I sit around HOPING we lose is crazy. I never hope our team loses. My post was simply factual in nature

It said IF you want JP gone then losing the first round game to Tulsa was probably what it would take for the Powers to have no choice in the matter.

Anyone who thinks the U couldn't fire JP over $10m is crazy. If the U and the big money guys wanted JP gone they would find a way.

It may mean going out and finding an up and comer for $1m a year but it could be done

I find it hilarious that some think our leadership and boosters couldn't fire JP over his contract amount.

What big donors want Big Donors get

The larger problem which comes next assuming we advance to the torny finals is by keeping JP on next year it automatically adds another year at the same price per year.

For recruiting purposes every major program auto renews the extra year so a HC can promise a kids parents he has a 5 yr deal.

It's not like keeping JP next year reduces our term of payment

It will always be the same as long as he gets another year

I guess the AD could say "Sorry but your deal/term is your deal" which then would reduce the amount owed from say 4 to 3

Double edge sword cuz the coach's hands are tied recruiting for future years.

If those who pay his contract want him gone they will find a way. It's just going to be impossible to justify if we make it to the Finals

Would be so nice for everyone to not take every post and look for ways to trash it

So much better to make your best informed and thoughtful comments. This is what makes s message board fun to come to.

It's OK to Agree to Disagree but all the childish name calling is a waste of everyone's time

Every poster who wants to just talk Tigers and express their thoughts are gonna leave

Then this board which we've built for 10+ years is going to become a wasteland with no relevant conversation.

I hope we can get everyone to be civil and stop the high school antics

I can tell by reading half of the replies the majority of the Aholes on this board certainly did not earn a degree from MSU or UM

BBA 1993

Winning = good


GO TIGERS!

(03-12-2016 01:24 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 12:47 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Might need to invest in some painkillers

Definitely!!! The anti Pastner crowd which includes me better be ready for another year and an auto renew extension.

I mentioned this possibly in the Andy Katz thread a few weeks back. Nobody in the AAC is unbeatable.

My fear as someone who wants to see a coaching change is one step closer to coming true.

Winning the AAC torny isn't hard this year. SMU was the only team we probably couldn't beat with Larry Brown on the sideline.

Tulane knocking off UH virtually puts Pastner in the title game. Once there we have as good of chance to win as anyone we face.

I have been on record since November saying he had to go.

however I'll be the first to say that if JP magically gets us into the Big Dance then I will give credit where it's due

After losing AN this summer we went from Sweet 16 aspirations to simply making the NCAAs.

If we win it then I rest my case because JP would have met the season expectation.

For those thinking I sit around HOPING we lose is crazy. I never hope our team loses. My post was simply factual in nature

It said IF you want JP gone then losing the first round game to Tulsa was probably what it would take for the Powers to have no choice in the matter.

Anyone who thinks the U couldn't fire JP over $10m is crazy. If the U and the big money guys wanted JP gone they would find a way.

It may mean going out and finding an up and comer for $1m a year but it could be done

I find it hilarious that some think our leadership and boosters couldn't fire JP over his contract amount.

What big donors want Big Donors get

The larger problem which comes next assuming we advance to the torny finals is by keeping JP on next year it automatically adds another year at the same price per year.

For recruiting purposes every major program auto renews the extra year so a HC can promise a kids parents he has a 5 yr deal.

It's not like keeping JP next year reduces our term of payment

It will always be the same as long as he gets another year

I guess the AD could say "Sorry but your deal/term is your deal" which then would reduce the amount owed from say 4 to 3

Double edge sword cuz the coach's hands are tied recruiting for future years.

If those who pay his contract want him gone they will find a way. It's just going to be impossible to justify if we make it to the Finals

Would be so nice for everyone to not take every post and look for ways to trash it

So much better to make your best informed and thoughtful comments. This is what makes s message board fun to come to.

It's OK to Agree to Disagree but all the childish name calling is a waste of everyone's time

Every poster who wants to just talk Tigers and express their thoughts are gonna leave

Then this board which we've built for 10+ years is going to become a wasteland with no relevant conversation.

I hope we can get everyone to be civil and stop the high school antics

I can tell by reading half of the replies the majority of the Aholes on this board certainly did not earn a degree from MSU or UM

BBA 1993

1). The big boosters are supposedly the ones that don't want him gone, so your argument is really flawed.

2). Earlier, you talked about losing giving Pastner more negotiating power and making it less likely that he would quit. It is IMPOSSIBLE for Pastner to have more negotiating power than he has now. Nothing that happens in the tournament changes any of that.

And, why would you think that he would quit and walk away from a penny in that contract? That makes zero sense.

(03-12-2016 01:24 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 12:47 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Gosh this is tough to say/write but important for Tiger Basketball

If we want a change and a new coach for '16-17 then it's best for the program for us to get bounced by Tulsa

If we somehow pull off a miracle to win our 1st and 2nd game in the torny it gives JP more negotiation power of a settlement.

If we advance to the final game then I don't see why JP would quit

Might need to invest in some painkillers

Definitely!!! The anti Pastner crowd which includes me better be ready for another year and an auto renew extension.

I mentioned this possibly in the Andy Katz thread a few weeks back. Nobody in the AAC is unbeatable.

My fear as someone who wants to see a coaching change is one step closer to coming true.

Winning the AAC torny isn't hard this year. SMU was the only team we probably couldn't beat with Larry Brown on the sideline.

Tulane knocking off UH virtually puts Pastner in the title game. Once there we have as good of chance to win as anyone we face.

I have been on record since November saying he had to go.

however I'll be the first to say that if JP magically gets us into the Big Dance then I will give credit where it's due

After losing AN this summer we went from Sweet 16 aspirations to simply making the NCAAs.

If we win it then I rest my case because JP would have met the season expectation.

For those thinking I sit around HOPING we lose is crazy. I never hope our team loses. My post was simply factual in nature

It said IF you want JP gone then losing the first round game to Tulsa was probably what it would take for the Powers to have no choice in the matter.

Anyone who thinks the U couldn't fire JP over $10m is crazy. If the U and the big money guys wanted JP gone they would find a way.

It may mean going out and finding an up and comer for $1m a year but it could be done

I find it hilarious that some think our leadership and boosters couldn't fire JP over his contract amount.

What big donors want Big Donors get

The larger problem which comes next assuming we advance to the torny finals is by keeping JP on next year it automatically adds another year at the same price per year.

For recruiting purposes every major program auto renews the extra year so a HC can promise a kids parents he has a 5 yr deal.

It's not like keeping JP next year reduces our term of payment

It will always be the same as long as he gets another year

I guess the AD could say "Sorry but your deal/term is your deal" which then would reduce the amount owed from say 4 to 3

Double edge sword cuz the coach's hands are tied recruiting for future years.

If those who pay his contract want him gone they will find a way. It's just going to be impossible to justify if we make it to the Finals

Would be so nice for everyone to not take every post and look for ways to trash it

So much better to make your best informed and thoughtful comments. This is what makes s message board fun to come to.

It's OK to Agree to Disagree but all the childish name calling is a waste of everyone's time

Every poster who wants to just talk Tigers and express their thoughts are gonna leave

Then this board which we've built for 10+ years is going to become a wasteland with no relevant conversation.

I hope we can get everyone to be civil and stop the high school antics

I can tell by reading half of the replies the majority of the Aholes on this board certainly did not earn a degree from MSU or UM

BBA 1993

Totally different take on any future negotiations. If he does well, then some other school is more likely to hire him and he is more likely to AGREE to mitigation. That is the best possible outcome for all parties. He would suffer no financial harm and be able to get a fresh start without a firing on the record. The university would be able to get a fresh start with a reduction in the contract cost. Both parties could and would amend the contract in this way. Also, don't think he will get a renewal without a re-negotiation. The University now coming to terms with how amazingly one sided this deal is, would not allow anything to re-open without getting a more equitable deal. I want Pastner gone and the quickest and easiest way is for him to make the tourney make the S16 and bolt. So rooting for the Tigers is the logical end no matter what side of the Pastner fence you dwell on.