(01-17-2016 01:34 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  If we lost Pastner as HC, be it from him moving on or being released from his duties, I would assume Pearl would be on the list.

I'd call Archie Miller (long shot), Pearl, Avery Johnson, Gregg Marshall (long shot) to start.
I'd interview Damon Stoudemire off the existing staff to potentially be given the job.

There are many others I'd call.

However, Pastner has a long term contract and despite some struggles, the team very well might be trending up. I have very high hopes for the rest of this year.

Pastner might surprise us all yet and make good on his immense promise. He has talent and potential. I am not ready to give up on his tenure in 2015-2016.

(note: edited to fix Archie 'Manning' to Archie Miller, apparently I am losing my mind - SD)

Miller only makes 650k at Dayton....would he take the Memphis job for 2 million? I know I would.

Underwood at SFA, only makes about 350k

Watch out for Chris Beard at UALR....15-1 in his first year with wins @ San Diego St, @ Tulsa, @ Depaul.

Scott Cross at UT Arlington

Dan Majerle at Grand Canyon is 16-2.

(01-17-2016 08:06 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  The time to hire Pearl is gone and that ship has sailed. In a year or two he will be a top coach in the SEC and battling for the conference championship.

Makes no sense whatsoever for him to even remotely consider Memphis in the position he is at now.

Sadly, yep. Check out the recruits he's getting...... at Auburn.

But I agree that that train has left the station.

(01-17-2016 01:54 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I don't think either of those options is ideal (keeping Pastner, hiring Pearl.) There are lots of other fish in the sea bigger and better than the one we have now and more palpable than Sweathog.

yup. Basically, the man is just too orange. He would never sweat Tiger Blue.

On an interesting note, Bruce Pearl is in the Jewish Coaches Association along with Josh Pastner. Bernie Fine is one of the founding fathers.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and...f-the-ncaa

(01-17-2016 02:29 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:34 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  If we lost Pastner as HC, be it from him moving on or being released from his duties, I would assume Pearl would be on the list.

I'd call Archie Miller (long shot), Pearl, Avery Johnson, Gregg Marshall (long shot) to start.
I'd interview Damon Stoudemire off the existing staff to potentially be given the job.

There are many others I'd call.

However, Pastner has a long term contract and despite some struggles, the team very well might be trending up. I have very high hopes for the rest of this year.

Pastner might surprise us all yet and make good on his immense promise. He has talent and potential. I am not ready to give up on his tenure in 2015-2016.

(note: edited to fix Archie 'Manning' to Archie Miller, apparently I am losing my mind - SD)

Miller only makes 650k at Dayton....would he take the Memphis job for 2 million? I know I would.

Underwood at SFA, only makes about 350k

Watch out for Chris Beard at UALR....15-1 in his first year with wins @ San Diego St, @ Tulsa, @ Depaul.

Scott Cross at UT Arlington

Dan Majerle at Grand Canyon is 16-2.

Don't you listen to the good posters? Coaches don't go to different places for more money. They would refuse to come here for a million dollar + raise because of our unreasonable expectations

(01-17-2016 02:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:29 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:34 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  If we lost Pastner as HC, be it from him moving on or being released from his duties, I would assume Pearl would be on the list.

I'd call Archie Miller (long shot), Pearl, Avery Johnson, Gregg Marshall (long shot) to start.
I'd interview Damon Stoudemire off the existing staff to potentially be given the job.

There are many others I'd call.

However, Pastner has a long term contract and despite some struggles, the team very well might be trending up. I have very high hopes for the rest of this year.

Pastner might surprise us all yet and make good on his immense promise. He has talent and potential. I am not ready to give up on his tenure in 2015-2016.

(note: edited to fix Archie 'Manning' to Archie Miller, apparently I am losing my mind - SD)

Miller only makes 650k at Dayton....would he take the Memphis job for 2 million? I know I would.

Underwood at SFA, only makes about 350k

Watch out for Chris Beard at UALR....15-1 in his first year with wins @ San Diego St, @ Tulsa, @ Depaul.

Scott Cross at UT Arlington

Dan Majerle at Grand Canyon is 16-2.

Don't you listen to the good posters? Coaches don't go to different places for more money. They would refuse to come here for a million dollar + raise because of our unreasonable expectations

If we make a coaching change (IF), we'll have options.

I'm not sure Archie Miller would leave Dayton or Marshall would leave Wichita, but there are always good options.

If we retain Pastner, it will be b/c the powers that be feel he is the right man for the job and/or they wish to invest said money in other places.

With the development the FB program has made recently, I'm going to trust our guys to make the right call.

Pastner is still the HC this year and things are (slowly?) trending up. I ahven't given up on him yet, but if a change is made, we'll have quality options I think.

(01-17-2016 02:44 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:29 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:34 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  If we lost Pastner as HC, be it from him moving on or being released from his duties, I would assume Pearl would be on the list.

I'd call Archie Miller (long shot), Pearl, Avery Johnson, Gregg Marshall (long shot) to start.
I'd interview Damon Stoudemire off the existing staff to potentially be given the job.

There are many others I'd call.

However, Pastner has a long term contract and despite some struggles, the team very well might be trending up. I have very high hopes for the rest of this year.

Pastner might surprise us all yet and make good on his immense promise. He has talent and potential. I am not ready to give up on his tenure in 2015-2016.

(note: edited to fix Archie 'Manning' to Archie Miller, apparently I am losing my mind - SD)

Miller only makes 650k at Dayton....would he take the Memphis job for 2 million? I know I would.

Underwood at SFA, only makes about 350k

Watch out for Chris Beard at UALR....15-1 in his first year with wins @ San Diego St, @ Tulsa, @ Depaul.

Scott Cross at UT Arlington

Dan Majerle at Grand Canyon is 16-2.

Don't you listen to the good posters? Coaches don't go to different places for more money. They would refuse to come here for a million dollar + raise because of our unreasonable expectations

If we make a coaching change (IF), we'll have options.

I'm not sure Archie Miller would leave Dayton or Marshall would leave Wichita, but there are always good options.

If we retain Pastner, it will be b/c the powers that be feel he is the right man for the job and/or they wish to invest said money in other places.

With the development the FB program has made recently, I'm going to trust our guys to make the right call.

Pastner is still the HC this year and things are (slowly?) trending up. I ahven't given up on him yet, but if a change is made, we'll have quality options I think.

There will be more options for the next coach than there was last time. You never want to be the guy who follows the guy, you want to be the guy who follows the second guy.

(01-17-2016 02:26 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:14 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:55 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:43 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Ha ha ha, good point. Archie Miller.

My error, good catch.

I have done worse. I have struggled with dyslexia all my life.

The world is tough on the thoughtful and wordy. It will not be my only mistake today I reckon.

Didn't know you had dyslexia man, that is a tough one. I had a friend in college with an IQ around infinity and he wrote like a 6 year old by hand.

He's now a very successful professor / psychologist in Iowa, but it was a huge pain for him graduating from a top 15 school with a beautiful mind and a garbled ability to express it.

Since you're an adult and presumed successful, I'd guess you've harnessed your powers. In that case, good for you!

I have dyslexia and ADD. There are many manifestations of the condition. My writing speed above the 90th percentile, but my reading speed is in the 20th percentile. Has nothing to do with understanding. My eyes can't track on a page, I can't read off of a chalkboard at all.

It's amazing how many variants there are in the human condition and how we overcome them to achieve our goals.

Good on you for rocking out despite that issue!

Thank you, luckily I don't have it as bad as a lot of people. I didn't find out I had either until my last semester of graduate school at the U of Memphis.

(01-17-2016 01:01 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:47 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Yes, let's hire an 8-8 coach who is 1-5 on the road and has zero wins vs top 100 rpi teams.

He has 3 wins over top 100 RPI teams. Nice try.

Btw, our RPI is now 124.

UAB is in and out. MTSU has been 110 to 70.

He just beat a marginal Ky. So you go ahead and sell those three rpi.

I know very well know where we are and I'm not happy about it and I agree changes need to be made. Just not to BP.



te Opponent Opp. RPI Rk Results
$ 11-13 UAB 13-3 (4-0) 98 75-74 W
11-17 Colorado 12-4 (2-2) 31 84-91 L
11-20 Georgia Southern 3-10 (1-4) 327 92-62 W
11-27 N'western St. 0-10 (0-1) 343 119-81 W
12-02 at Coastal Car. 6-8 (3-3) 250 81-78 W
12-12 at Middle Tenn. St. 9-5 (3-1) 71 81-88 L
12-15 Mercer 11-4 (3-1) 103 78-71 W
12-19 at Xavier 15-1 (3-1) 2 61-85 L
12-22 vs New Mexico 10-7 (3-1) 121 83-78 W
? 12-23 vs Harvard 6-8 (1-0) 139 51-69 L
12-25 at Hawaii 12-2 (3-0) 85 67-79 L
01-02 Tennessee 8-8 (1-3) 110 83-77 W
01-05 South Carolina 14-1 (2-1) 28 69-81 L
? 01-09 at Missouri 8-8 (1-2) 152 61-76 L
01-12 at Vanderbilt 9-7 (1-3)

(01-17-2016 02:24 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:04 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  He has proven once again to be a masterful HC and he has the exact charisma to completely revitalize Tiger Hoops and re-charge the fan base.

For the minority camp of Tiger fans who say they will never come to a Tiger game again if we hire BP then I say back to you ....DONT COME BACK

Bruce Pearl is EXACTLY the man for our job. He is bad a$$ and knows how to recruit, motivate, and COACH.

BP's sub 500 team knocked off Cal and UK when they were severely out matched and out talented.

On posts like this people say things like...."Well fund it if you believe in it so much"

This post is different because as a 46 year tiger fan I've seen enough to know what type coach will win and win big at Memphis. Pearl may be the best of any we've ever had.

I am going to commit to something i shouldn't do b/c Im not in the same atmosphere as our BIG BIG donors but here it is....

I do not live in Memphis any longer and I am too far away to travel to home games to get ANY personal perks such as priority seating and invitations to all the Hob Knob events etc....

Asking for noting in return personally I am making a personal pledge to the TSF for $50,000 LUMP SUM payment IF our admin will hire Bruce Pearl at the end of the season.

I am a medium well funded person and willing to dig into my retirement savings to offer $50,000 to the athletic department.

If someone is tight with our AD Tom B then have him send me a PM so I can show him my level of commitment to bring a winner back to memphis basketball

Besides the fact that Cals team is a mess and very likely will not make the NCAA themselves if not for their name. You want to hire someone who makes Cal look like a saint when it comes to character and ethics. The man has a long history of unethical behavior and rule breaking. He is someone the U of M cannot go near since it does not have the political protection of a P5 conference.

You don't really believe that, do you?

Pastner would have to pull a rabbit out of his ___ to field a better team next year than he put on the court this year. I wouldn't say the program is trending up, but I would agree this years squad is better than last years.

(01-17-2016 02:04 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  He has proven once again to be a masterful HC and he has the exact charisma to completely revitalize Tiger Hoops and re-charge the fan base.

For the minority camp of Tiger fans who say they will never come to a Tiger game again if we hire BP then I say back to you ....DONT COME BACK

Bruce Pearl is EXACTLY the man for our job. He is bad a$$ and knows how to recruit, motivate, and COACH.

BP's sub 500 team knocked off Cal and UK when they were severely out matched and out talented.

On posts like this people say things like...."Well fund it if you believe in it so much"

This post is different because as a 46 year tiger fan I've seen enough to know what type coach will win and win big at Memphis. Pearl may be the best of any we've ever had.

I am going to commit to something i shouldn't do b/c Im not in the same atmosphere as our BIG BIG donors but here it is....

I do not live in Memphis any longer and I am too far away to travel to home games to get ANY personal perks such as priority seating and invitations to all the Hob Knob events etc....

Asking for noting in return personally I am making a personal pledge to the TSF for $50,000 LUMP SUM payment IF our admin will hire Bruce Pearl at the end of the season.

I am a medium well funded person and willing to dig into my retirement savings to offer $50,000 to the athletic department.

If someone is tight with our AD Tom B then have him send me a PM so I can show him my level of commitment to bring a winner back to memphis basketball

If he is such a great coach then why is his team SUB 500?

(01-17-2016 02:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:54 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I don't think either of those options is ideal (keeping Pastner, hiring Pearl.) There are lots of other fish in the sea bigger and better than the one we have now and more palpable than Sweathog.

yup. Basically, the man is just too orange. He would never sweat Tiger Blue.

I think Pearl would definitely sweat Tiger blue, the problem is we didn't make a move for him when we could have picked him up for a song and dance. Now it would take some cash and he is getting to a place where he probably doesn't want to move any more. He may consider Auburn home now.

Pearl would do unbelievably well here, close to Calipari good imo, but we may have missed our chance. I doubt Pearl wants to make many more restarts. If we did land him, we probably would have him for good. The man has always been the one we needed to hire after X left. Josh may be figuring it out now, which complicates everything. Josh is no doubt ready to bail the first opportunity he gets.

Either way we will be starting again soon enough. Pearl has always been the hire we needed to make to turn everything around. Everything else is a long shot I just cant get excited about. Had we hired Pearl years ago we would be consistent a top 10 or 20 team and have made 2 or 3 NCAA runs. You can count how much it costs to buy CJP out, but how much revenue are we down without any advancement in the NCAA, lost fans and tickets sold, and lost ad revenue?

Should a change be made, which is doubtful, lets hope we follow the pattern set in the last two football searches.We dont need a million dollar hire. We need a young hire with great potential. The right guy is out there, just got to find him.

Is it going to take the death penalty?

(01-17-2016 09:43 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:47 AM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  For discussions like this are why I decided to join this forum.....

It's why many posters left it. Bruce Pearl can kiss my ass.

Come on, RB. Don't be like that.

(01-17-2016 04:42 PM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 09:43 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:47 AM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  For discussions like this are why I decided to join this forum.....

It's why many posters left it. Bruce Pearl can kiss my ass.

Come on, RB. Don't be like that.

Like what? Like someone who complains about the color of blue used on everything from Tshirts to mugs? Like someone who complains about the commonly used phrase "go tigers go?"

(01-17-2016 02:44 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  If we make a coaching change (IF), we'll have options.

I'm not sure Archie Miller would leave Dayton or Marshall would leave Wichita, but there are always good options.

If we retain Pastner, it will be b/c the powers that be feel he is the right man for the job and/or they wish to invest said money in other places.

With the development the FB program has made recently, I'm going to trust our guys to make the right call.

Pastner is still the HC this year and things are (slowly?) trending up. I haven't given up on him yet, but if a change is made, we'll have quality options I think.

We had plenty of quality options last time. We just had a nervous nitwit in charge. And with Cal leaving town in the middle of the night, dumping that NCAA investigation right into RC's lap, I guess I can't really blame him. He had other things on his mind -- like saving his own job.

(01-17-2016 01:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:44 PM)Poorwill Wrote:  Keep Pastner if only to drive all the jerks away.

Along with the crowds and the excitement. AND some of the players. Let's just make it the university of Josh. Why not, right?

Sweathog excitement?

It would be off the charts.

(01-17-2016 01:15 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:01 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:47 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Yes, let's hire an 8-8 coach who is 1-5 on the road and has zero wins vs top 100 rpi teams.

He has 3 wins over top 100 RPI teams. Nice try.

Btw, our RPI is now 124.

And his career record against top 25 teams and top 100 RPI teams and NCAA tourney success is just a smidge better.

Dude took Wisconsin-Milwaukee to the Sweet 16. Tennessee to the Elite 8.

Think about it.

timing mate, timing. Just wonder where this thread was 2 weeks ago?