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RE: This is exactly why an established coach will want the job after JP is gone.
(11-28-2014 10:41 AM)Malachi Wrote: (11-28-2014 09:19 AM)Stammers Wrote: (11-22-2014 07:17 AM)Malachi Wrote: Cal had to completely build a program from the ground up his first five years. Pastner did not.
Cal had a tougher schedule his first five years. Cusa was a cake walk for both eventually.
Cal did not have a tougher schedule. It was a lot easier. When Cal did try to schedule top flight competition (Temple, Alabama, Iowa, Arkansas, Villanova, Missouri, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Wake Forest, etc), most of them tanked and didn't end up ranked. Also, we often caught Louisville, Cincy, Marquette and DePaul when they weren't ranked. The numbers show that Pastner has consistently played tougher schedules, so your argument is false.
And most importantly, high school players could go straight to the NBA during Cals early years. Once the one and done rule was enacted, he thrived. Why Pastner lovers neglect to consider this is funny. It's a huge difference.
In other words, Pastner is 100% to blame for not having any experience at guard this year and having other holes in the roster...but Cal gets a pass because players went to the NBA. Complete nonsense.
It's not an equal comparison and its lazy to just look at winning percentage.
Yes, by not factoring anything else into the equation, you are being very lazy.
Does anyone really feel in year 6 Pastner is headed in the same trajectory as cal was? Anyone expecting an elite 8 this year?
Possibly the biggest joke of all your arguments. Since 2006, Cal has won 31 NCAA games. Donovan has 2 titles but has won 26 games. Bill Self has won 23 and Roy Williams has won 22. He is the most successful coach in the entire country. Who is headed on the same trajectory as Cal? Not Coach K, not Roy Williams, not even Bill Self.
For those that are, please pass the dutchie to the left hand side.
I doubt there is anything left when you were done with it.
oh stammers. you silly little boy.
Schedule - let me guess. You're still using RPI for your argument like last week when you were shown how ridiculous that is for these purposes. But carry on.
Me and the NCAA tournament selection committee being called ridiculous by some message board loser that hopes that we lose every game. Funny.
One and Done - ahhh,the patented stammers move - take something out of context, through in superfluous stats, make a case that isn't being argued. Well done sir, well done. If anything you are consistent.
You are the one that "throughed" it out there, and it was dumb. Next.
The one and done mention was brought up because of the broken record 'cal vs pastner first 5 years' argument. If Amare, Perkins, Woods, etc were required to be on campus for 1 year, you can guarantee there wouldn't be this stupid argument.
Broken record? EVERYTHING you say is a broken record. Your repertoire consists of exactly one topic. If Amare...fantastic argument; right after your moronic superfluous comment.
The fact Pastner has holes on this team and no point guard in year 6 is because the shine has worn off the new toy. But you keep on playing with it if it makes you happy.
We have two good point guards and Markel looks like he will turn out to be pretty good too. You and your buddies; who show up at the same time and post in a remarkably similar style, have NOTHING to say unless you are bashing Pastner...again, all in the same posting style.
Trajectory - haha, are you using Kentucky stats for Cal? I'm talking about Memphis only but stay off point, as usual. In year 6 with Laurenburg coming in, everyone had a feeling Cal was headed upward. In year 6 with a bunch of 'Tigers' on the team, do you have that same feeling with Josh? Please say yes. Oh please do...it would say so much about you.
First of all, you're the idiot that brought up Cal. Second, who knows how this season will turn out? Only a complete idiot would write off the season BEFORE it started; considering that we have so many new pieces.
I know that you and the dozen or so very very similar posters are wetting yourselves in anticipation of us losing games. It must have been heartbreaking for you when we came back from being 6 down to Indiana State. [/code][/quote]
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