scorpius Wrote:

TigerFootballFan Wrote:As far as basketball, i would expect 30 wins again. Whoever said 28-7 please name the seven. I'd say at most 1 loss in the Maui, 1 CUSA loss(UAB or Rice), I think we play at Gonzaga and at UT. I don't think UT has the toughness to beat us. So I count 3 losses and maybe an off night or two. But our team isn't that much worse than last year. Did you see the florida recruit that transferred? Is Dwash and Allen a much better backcourt than Allen and Kemp? I guess we'll see. We will be top ten again though.

This year Allen will be one year more experienced. And I truly believe a freshman healthy Kemp will be AT LEAST equal to a wounded sophmore DWash.. especially after he gets a couple games under his belt. Both Carney and Williams were inconsistant and had a lot of off nights. Carney didn't even start most of the time because he was so inconsistant. And it's general concensus that Williams did not live up to expectations last year (he got drafted mostly on potential). So add another year of experience to CDR, Anderson, Dozier and Dosey and I think that would at least come close to offsetting the loss of Carney and Williams. Now add Mack, Niles, Willis and Bailey, and we have more than made up for what we lost last year, especially when you consider we'll have even more depth. If we win the Maui tournament, we are top 5 all year with a very real possibility of a #1 spot opportunity a few times in the year. But regardless I think the most they could lose this year is 5. 3 losses is the most likely.

Those 2 NBA players and 1 professional player were sure holding us back, much like DeAngelo was holding our football team back because he was so good we overemphasized the run . . .

That said, I think CDR can probably come close to replacing carney's output, and dozier will do a passable job of replacing Shawne's production. The problem is our perimeter shooting is gonna be a lot worse this year unless Willis/Mack have sweet strokes.

jgardne Wrote:

scorpius Wrote:

TigerFootballFan Wrote:As far as basketball, i would expect 30 wins again. Whoever said 28-7 please name the seven. I'd say at most 1 loss in the Maui, 1 CUSA loss(UAB or Rice), I think we play at Gonzaga and at UT. I don't think UT has the toughness to beat us. So I count 3 losses and maybe an off night or two. But our team isn't that much worse than last year. Did you see the florida recruit that transferred? Is Dwash and Allen a much better backcourt than Allen and Kemp? I guess we'll see. We will be top ten again though.

This year Allen will be one year more experienced. And I truly believe a freshman healthy Kemp will be AT LEAST equal to a wounded sophmore DWash.. especially after he gets a couple games under his belt. Both Carney and Williams were inconsistant and had a lot of off nights. Carney didn't even start most of the time because he was so inconsistant. And it's general concensus that Williams did not live up to expectations last year (he got drafted mostly on potential). So add another year of experience to CDR, Anderson, Dozier and Dosey and I think that would at least come close to offsetting the loss of Carney and Williams. Now add Mack, Niles, Willis and Bailey, and we have more than made up for what we lost last year, especially when you consider we'll have even more depth. If we win the Maui tournament, we are top 5 all year with a very real possibility of a #1 spot opportunity a few times in the year. But regardless I think the most they could lose this year is 5. 3 losses is the most likely.

Those 2 NBA players and 1 professional player were sure holding us back, much like DeAngelo was holding our football team back because he was so good we overemphasized the run . . .

That said, I think CDR can probably come close to replacing carney's output, and dozier will do a passable job of replacing Shawne's production. The problem is our perimeter shooting is gonna be a lot worse this year unless Willis/Mack have sweet strokes.

Good point J. You could count on Darius hitting the 3 at least. He was an overall threat even though he will be remembered for the drive.

memphisrebel Wrote:you will be spanked by the Rebels. It won't even be a close game...

Actually *******, if you promise to join us Labor day for a postgame discussion, we should allow you to continue to run your mouth and show your ignorance on this board.

The game is in Oxford. Tigers football and b-ball have good recent history in Oxford. If you want to talk about spankings in Oxford, remember how our men in b-ball kicked your ass by 30 in Dec.?

Football

8-4 regular season. Losses to Tennessee, UAB, UCF, and UTEP. I know listing the Blazers as a loss is maddening, but I will NOT list them as a "W" until the game is over and MEMPHIS has more points than UAB.

MEMPHIS again goes bowling, either to Houston or Mobile.

Basketball

I have not yet seen the final schedule but the only mystery is who the last major OOC opponent will be. I just want it to be a home game in January or February, especially if CBS can arrange it.

My early guess right now is 6 losses, with about 4 of them before the conference schedule begins. I would say 2 losses in Maui, at Tennessee, at Arizona, at Houston, and maybe whoever that final big OOC game is against. There is talent on this team but it most be meshed with the existing players and team philosophy.

I hope MEMPHIS surprises everyone and goes 31-2. But let's not diminish the talent that is gone - D-Wash, Shawne, and Carney were pretty damn good, folks.

But I expect once they start clicking, they will begin to dominate big time.

However, the early losses will hurt since C-USA is pretty weak except for Houston, UAB, and UTEP. A February game at Gonzaga will help some, but they also lost their two primary stars.

The seeding committee will put MEMPHIS as a 4 or 5 seed but put the TIGERS in the New Orleans/St. Louis venues. If that happens, and the TIGER fans pack the joints, a Final 4 run is possible.

MEMPHIS will be one of the major dark horses come March.

boss man Wrote:I hope MEMPHIS surprises everyone and goes 31-2. But let's not diminish the talent that is gone - D-Wash, Shawne, and Carney were pretty damn good, folks.

Extremely well put.

As athletic as Anderson, Dozier etc. are and as promising as Kemp and the newcomers are we lost our 3 best players.

We will be good and capable but not as strong as last year. For all the complaining about DWash not being a pure point guard his absence will be notably missed in close games.

we will spank you...

we won last year...(wait, sorry to bring up the past)

so far Coach O owns the tigers...

I loved all the people last year at the Liberty :john: Bowl that wore those Coach O-1 t-shirts. good idea. that is arrogant.

some fans from other schools post a bunch of junk that they don't believe to kiss your butts. I could care less about that. I do commend the admins of this board though. they do a great job keeping this board up to date. wish ole miss had a site like this.

I don't care to be your friends...I post the truth.

Quote:so far Coach O owns the tigers...

Ok - you win 1 game under coach Orgasm in the last seconds of the game with their 2nd string QB in and you own them???? Please.

Ole Miss is pathetic. Always has been and always will be. Coach mOron is the laughing stock of the SEC and everyone knows it.

And that hummer commercial is classic. He coaches about as well as he acts.

Quit embarrassing the SEC and getting your free ride.

phat phil is spent. UT, by far, has the most off-field problems in the SEC. Miami's program is cleaner.

welcome to the bottom of the sec. I'm used to it, but some how I think it ticks you off more. Vandy is the current SEC champ in the state of Tennessee.

Quote:phat phil is spent.

That is why we hired Cutcliffe to come back. ;-)

Quote:Vandy is the current SEC champ in the state of Tennessee.

Every squirrel finds a nut every now and then. We will give them 1 win every 25 years.

We have a losing season about once every 20 years. You have a winning season about once every 20 years. I would take those stats any day.

I don't think mOron is your answer. But he does have good taste in SUV's - a humma. He could probably move back to California and be a big time actor after he is fired from Suck Miss in about 2 years. His commercial was awesome.

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you're right, I've never seen an ignorant fat phil commercial.

he is losing control...how does he expect his players to practice self discipline when it is clear that the man has to eat 10,000 calories a day?

And Coach O is the poster child for self discipline and self control as shown in his 3-8 record, his 2 assistants getting arrested for drunk driving, most of his prized recruits leaving the program, him hitting his offensive coordinator, him losing control and taking off his clothes in front of his players, and his ever constant smack talk - building a fence around Memphis.

Phil is a former offensive linemen with a healthy appetite. Coach O is well........... just an idiot Cajun with a hot temper and no coaching ability.

You got anything else?

jgardne Wrote:

scorpius Wrote:

TigerFootballFan Wrote:As far as basketball, i would expect 30 wins again. Whoever said 28-7 please name the seven. I'd say at most 1 loss in the Maui, 1 CUSA loss(UAB or Rice), I think we play at Gonzaga and at UT. I don't think UT has the toughness to beat us. So I count 3 losses and maybe an off night or two. But our team isn't that much worse than last year. Did you see the florida recruit that transferred? Is Dwash and Allen a much better backcourt than Allen and Kemp? I guess we'll see. We will be top ten again though.

This year Allen will be one year more experienced. And I truly believe a freshman healthy Kemp will be AT LEAST equal to a wounded sophmore DWash.. especially after he gets a couple games under his belt. Both Carney and Williams were inconsistant and had a lot of off nights. Carney didn't even start most of the time because he was so inconsistant. And it's general concensus that Williams did not live up to expectations last year (he got drafted mostly on potential). So add another year of experience to CDR, Anderson, Dozier and Dosey and I think that would at least come close to offsetting the loss of Carney and Williams. Now add Mack, Niles, Willis and Bailey, and we have more than made up for what we lost last year, especially when you consider we'll have even more depth. If we win the Maui tournament, we are top 5 all year with a very real possibility of a #1 spot opportunity a few times in the year. But regardless I think the most they could lose this year is 5. 3 losses is the most likely.

Those 2 NBA players and 1 professional player were sure holding us back, much like DeAngelo was holding our football team back because he was so good we overemphasized the run . . .

That said, I think CDR can probably come close to replacing carney's output, and dozier will do a passable job of replacing Shawne's production. The problem is our perimeter shooting is gonna be a lot worse this year unless Willis/Mack have sweet strokes.

I think our outside shooting will be better overall. One of the problems was Shawne and he's gone. Also, we will be much better inside so a lot of our shots are going to be completely uncontested. It'll be a different story for Dozier AA. When they shot and missed last year they often got the hook. This year they'll be allowed to shoot that shot without as much pressure. Look for all of the returnees to improve.

Quote:jgardne wrote:
scorpius wrote:
TigerFootballFan wrote:

As far as basketball, i would expect 30 wins again. Whoever said 28-7 please name the seven. I'd say at most 1 loss in the Maui, 1 CUSA loss(UAB or Rice), I think we play at Gonzaga and at UT. I don't think UT has the toughness to beat us. So I count 3 losses and maybe an off night or two. But our team isn't that much worse than last year. Did you see the florida recruit that transferred? Is Dwash and Allen a much better backcourt than Allen and Kemp? I guess we'll see. We will be top ten again though.


This year Allen will be one year more experienced. And I truly believe a freshman healthy Kemp will be AT LEAST equal to a wounded sophmore DWash.. especially after he gets a couple games under his belt. Both Carney and Williams were inconsistant and had a lot of off nights. Carney didn't even start most of the time because he was so inconsistant. And it's general concensus that Williams did not live up to expectations last year (he got drafted mostly on potential). So add another year of experience to CDR, Anderson, Dozier and Dosey and I think that would at least come close to offsetting the loss of Carney and Williams. Now add Mack, Niles, Willis and Bailey, and we have more than made up for what we lost last year, especially when you consider we'll have even more depth. If we win the Maui tournament, we are top 5 all year with a very real possibility of a #1 spot opportunity a few times in the year. But regardless I think the most they could lose this year is 5. 3 losses is the most likely.


Those 2 NBA players and 1 professional player were sure holding us back, much like DeAngelo was holding our football team back because he was so good we overemphasized the run . . .

That said, I think CDR can probably come close to replacing carney's output, and dozier will do a passable job of replacing Shawne's production. The problem is our perimeter shooting is gonna be a lot worse this year unless Willis/Mack have sweet strokes.


Good point J. You could count on Darius hitting the 3 at least. He was an overall threat even though he will be remembered for the drive.

No, he will be remembered for the free throws

Quote:My early guess right now is 6 losses, with about 4 of them before the conference schedule begins. I would say 2 losses in Maui, at Tennessee, at Arizona, at Houston, and maybe whoever that final big OOC game is against. There is talent on this team but it most be meshed with the existing players and team philosophy.

So basically when you say we'll have 6 losses you're saying we'll lose every last one of our BIG games. That is just plain ridiculous when you consider we lose only Shawne from 2 years worth of top ten recruiting classes. And you're right, we did lose our top 3 players, but those same top 3 players weren't THAT much better than 4 or 5 of our other players. Take a look at their scoring averages. The main stength of last year's team wasn't our top 3 players more than it was our depth. And that depth should be at least as deep this year if not more so. I also view it as somewhat of a positive that our perimeter shooting won't be as good this year than last. That will mean we won't be a team that lobs it up from 3 point range all the time when we get confused, but rather lob it inside to our big guys who will be much better this year than last. That to me produces a more consistantly good basketball team. I say of the 6 or so tough games, we'll lose no more than half whether they are on the road or not. So those 3 losses plus a likely NCAA loss means 4 losses. But I stand by my 3 loss prediction. This years schedule will be weaker RPI wise than last years by a wide margin in my opinion. And the away games won't be nearly as tough as people think. I see Gonzaga collapsing this year and Arizona still has a lot to prove after last year. Tennessee seems to be 50/50 regardless of talent or whose home court it is. So what exactly is the basis for saying we'll lose all our big games?
Basically the whole season I believe comes down to that Maui tournament. If we win it, we're top 5 all season. If we lose more than one game, it will be a loonnnng season. We'll likely only lose one and be in the lower half of the top 10 come conference time even with minimal losses. I really don't see it going any other way unless like I said we collapse in Maui and lose 2 or more. Then I can see 6 or more losses. But that's the only way.

The post above is in part exactly my point. People's analysis of our team, and surprisingly our own fans on here, is as if last years freshmen wont be better this year. Dont just subtract what we loss, you have to add the experience of our strong returning core

I predict, that with the loss of Darius, we will not see the replay of the missed free throws this year.


...unless we win the whole thing.